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Eric Fish, DVM's avatar

Human MDs in residencies are capped at an 80-hour work week and veterinary internship guidelines (admittedly voluntary) recommend a max of 60 hours/week. Forcing DVM students—who not only work for free but PAY >$60,000 a year for this “privilege”—to work anywhere near 100 hours a week to patch staffing shortages is completely unacceptable and must change.

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cara yanussi's avatar

I have some questions about the numbers. But first, let me be absolutely clear - NO ONE should be working consistent 100+ hour weeks. Not anyone in human medicine. Not anyone in animal welfare. Not anyone flying planes or driving trains. And not anyone having to work multiple minimum-wage jobs just to stay in poverty. No one.

So, moving on. There were dozens of students who signed this letter. Did you speak directly to them? Is that your source? Did you ask for some kind of log of hours spent within the hospital? Or did you take it at word value? Because I am trying to understand how anyone is working consistently 100(+) weeks. Broken down the numbers seem a little incredulous. At 7 days/week, that means consistent 14+ hour days. But that does not seem possible - they must have at least 1 day away. So, at 6 days per week that is 16.5+ hours every day they are in the hospital. At 5 days it's an even 20 hours/day. And we all know it cannot be done in 4 days...

Listen, I know what grueling schedules are. I know working long days add up and feel like hell. And I know that it can feel like there is no way any information is being retained. And I know what it feels like to not have any down or alone time. If any lessons were learned through the early years of the pandemic, it is that the vet med world takes a beating on the routine. And it only gets amplified by feeling tired all the time.

Is it possible that 80 hours is a more close-to-real number? I mean, it's still not great. At 7 days that averages almost 11.5 hours every day, week after week. At 6 days it is closer to 13.3 hours/day, again, week after week. And at 5 days/week, that is 16-hour days. With 2 days away.

I still do not like that thought of anyone (again - human medicine, animal welfare, those having to work multiple jobs just to survive, so ANYONE) HAVING to work that much week after week.

It seems like the number was made to shock and bring attention. And it did. But I am wondering if it was an exaggeration. And what that does to credibility to you who published it and those who claim it.

As someone who is working full time and taking a class to be able to help more people, I know it can seem like there is no 'me' time, but maybe because I have done the full-time school and part-time work thing already, and I have a lifetime lived before them, I have an easier grip on realizing what I can and cannot cut to make time.

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