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KB's  FROM THE PETRI DISH's avatar

Hey, thought you would like this and a bonus story: Oregon Zoo radiographs reveal hauntingly beautiful skeletons.

https://www.opb.org/article/2023/11/10/oregon-zoo-veterinarian-carlos-sanchez-journey/

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"This is where I think the radiologists have a right to be sounding off. These claims border on the outrageous, and they’re at least as nonsensical as the radiologists’ own demands for perfection and complete transparency. But if I were the radiologists, I’d let the marketing teams oversell it and scorch the earth. So the technology is imperfect? Let it fail, and it’ll be years before people come back to it."

I think most radiologists (and pathologists, who are in a similar boat) feel the need to call bullshit when they see something overhyped that underperforms because they have a sense of professional obligation to prevent patient harm. Sure, some high-profile, egregious medical error cases would set these products back (probably not permanently, sadly), but how do we ethically stand by and let Fido pay the price in a pissing contest between these big companies?

As you know from my writing, I'm very much an AI moderate like Dr. Appleby, and on good days I feel a bit of cautious optimism that it could be a boon to patients and practitioners alike. I also agree we need more studies, though I'll point out one reason there may be few of them published, especially in veterinary medicine, is on account of many being so poorly done that legitimate journals won't accept them! I myself recently peer-reviewed and rejected a diagnostic AI study not because the results were underwhelming (they were), rather because there was so little transparency about their dataset and algorithm that it would be impossible to evaluate either way.

Many companies try to hide behind "it's our secret IP, we couldn't possibly tell you how it works" and that just isn't acceptable. If those companies try to play fast and loose with their marketing anyway, it's on technical subject matter experts like us to speak up.

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